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Rif: 1167-1 SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 18th February 2007, 14:01 wrote:

Just bought about 4 high priced Nintendo Power carts form NGE's undumped list only to learn they match the normal cart.... :| .................
It's about time we open an up-to-date list. :lol:


Undumped Japanese games:
- Bishoujo Mahjong (Japan) (Unl) doesn't exist ~bashieeta
- Chou Dennou Jujutsu Yuugi Curse (Japan) (Unl) doesn't exist ~bashieeta
- Chrono Trigger - V-Jump Ban (Japan) same as regular Chrono Trigger ~bashieeta
- Dai-3-Ji Super Robot Taisen (Japan) (Rev A) / confirmed --Y~K
- Derby Stallion '98 (Japan) Same as NP ~bashieeta
- Derby Stallion III (Japan) (Rev A) / confirmed --Y~K
- Derby Stallion III (Japan) (Rev D)released
- Eiga Shoukai Soft - Mizu no Tabinin (Japan)
- [S]EMIT - Value Set (Japan)
Package of every EMIT ~bashieeta
- Final Fantasy IV (Japan) released
- Game Processor RAM Cassette (Japan) One dump by d4s
- Ganbare Goemon - Yuki Hime Kyuushutsu Emaki (Japan) (Rev A) / confirmed --Y~K
- Ganbare Goemon Kirakira Douchuu - Boku ga Dancer ni Natta Riyuu (Japan) (Rev A)
- Hoshi no Kirby - Super Deluxe (Japan) (Rev A) / confirmed --Y~K
- Hoshi no Kirby - Super Deluxe (Japan) (Rev B) released
- J.League Excite Stage '96 (Japan) (Sample)
- Kirby no Kirakira Kids (Japan) Same as NP ~chkiller
- Little Master - Nijiiro no Maseki (Japan) (Sample)
- Magical Drop 2 - Bunka Housou Special Version (Japan)
- Pro Action Replay - High Tech Option Series (Japan) (Unl)
- Pro Yakyuu Nettou Puzzle Stadium (Japan) (Sample)
- Saikyou - Takada Nobuhiko - Ucchan Nanchan Version (Japan)
- Satellaview BS-X BIOS (Japan) (Rev 0)
- Satellaview BS-X BIOS (Japan) (Rev A) matches known dump -> (Rev AB) --MattewCallis
- Satellaview BS-X BIOS (Japan) (Rev B) matches known dump -> (Rev AB) --Y~K
- SD F1 Grand Prix (Japan) (Beta) Same as SD F1 Grand Prix Sample ~bashieeta
- Super Mario Club Taikai You (Japan)
- Super Mahjong Taikai (Japan) (Rev A) - Super Mahjong Taikai (Japan) (Rev B) / confirmed --Y~K
- Super Mahjong Taikai (Japan) (Rev D) released
- Super Momotarou Dentetsu DX - Jr Nishi-Nihon Presents (Japan) purshased --MattewCallis
- Super Street Fighter II (Japan) (Sample)
- Sutte Hakkun (Japan) Same as NP ~bashieeta
- Wild Trax (Japan) (Sample)
- Wrecking Crew '98 (Japan) Same as NP ~bashieeta

Undumped USA games:
- Exertainment Mountain Bike Rally & Speed Racer (USA)
- Fighter's History (USA) (Rev 0)
- Ignition Factor, The (USA) (Sample)
- Star Fox (USA) (Rev A)
- Super Bases Loaded 3 - License to Steal (USA) (Rev A) known bad dump, redump needed
- Super Mario World/Pilot Wings/F-Zero Competition Cartridge (USA)

Undumped Europe games:
- Biker Mice From Mars (Europe) (Sample)
- Donkey Kong Country 2 - Diddy's Kong Quest (Europe) (En,Fr) (Rev 0)
- Terranigma (Germany) (Rev A) dumped by ElFuego/Badablek
- X-Terminator2 (Europe) (Unl)

Undumped Japanese BS games:
- BS All Japan Super Bombliss Cup '95 - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS All Japan Super Bombliss Cup '95 - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS All Japan Super Bombliss Cup '95 - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS All Japan Super Bombliss Cup '95 - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Bakushou Mondai no Totsugeki Star Pirate - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS Bakushou Mondai no Totsugeki Star Pirate - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS Bakushou Mondai no Totsugeki Star Pirate - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS Bakushou Mondai no Totsugeki Star Pirate - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Chaos Seed - Fuusui Kairouki (Japan)
- BS Clock Works (Japan)
- BS Dai-1-Kai Satellaview Hai - Ikuno Dictus Kinen - Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Dai-1-Kai Satellaview Hai - Satella Derby - Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Dai-1-Kai Satellaview Hai - Satella Sprint Stacks - Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Dai-1-Kai Satellaview Hai - Sharrood Kinen - Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Dezaemon BS Ban - BS-X Shooting (Japan)
- BS Dezaemon BS Ban - Sugoi Shooting (Japan)
- BS Dezaemon BS Ban - Sugoi Shooting 2 (Japan)
- BS Do-Re-Mi Oku no Original Sound Witch - Blue Sound Witch (Japan)
- BS Do-Re-Mi Oku no Original Sound Witch - Power Sound Witch (Japan)
- BS Dragon Quest I - Dai-1-Wa (Japan)
- BS Dragon Quest I - Dai-2-Wa (Japan)
- BS Dragon Quest I - Dai-3-Wa (Japan)
- BS Dragon Quest I - Dai-4-Wa (Japan)
- BS Fuurai no Shiren - Surara wo Sukue - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Fuurai no Shiren - Surara wo Sukue - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Fuurai no Shiren - Surara wo Sukue - Dai-3-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Fuurai no Shiren - Surara wo Sukue - Dai-4-Shuu (Japan)
- BS F-Zero 2 Practice (Japan)
- BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Game Tora no Taikoban 3-21 (Japan)
- BS Game Tora no Taikoban 3-28 (Japan)
- BS Goods Press - 4 Gatsugou (Japan)
- BS Ihatov Monogatari - Dai-1-Ya (Japan)
- BS Ihatov Monogatari - Dai-2-Ya (Japan)
- BS Ihatov Monogatari - Dai-3-Ya (Japan)
- BS Ihatov Monogatari - Dai-4-Ya (Japan)
- BS Ippatsu Gyakuten (Japan)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Haru no Zenkoku Tournament - Gomi Hiroi Campaign (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Haru no Zenkoku Tournament - Kesshou (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Haru no Zenkoku Tournament - Yosen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Natsu no Practice (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Sound Journal - AOR Hen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Sound Journal - Bossanova Hen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Sound Journal - County Rock (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - Sound Journal - Japanese Pops Hen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Kachiwari Megaton Punch (Japan)
- BS Ken-chan to Chie Asobi (Japan)
- BS Kirby no Omochabako - Arrange Ball (Japan)
- BS Kirby no Omochabako - Ball Rally (Japan)
- BS Kirby no Omochabako - Cannonball (Japan)
- BS Kirby no Omochabako - Pachinko (Japan)
- BS Kirby no Omochabako - Pinball (Japan)
- BS Makiba Monogatari - Dai-1-Wa (Japan)
- BS Makiba Monogatari - Dai-2-Wa (Japan)
- BS Makiba Monogatari - Dai-3-Wa (Japan)
- BS Makiba Monogatari - Dai-4-Wa (Japan)
- BS Monopoly Kouza Boardwalk heno Michi - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS Monopoly Kouza Boardwalk heno Michi - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS Monopoly Kouza Boardwalk heno Michi - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS Monopoly Kouza Boardwalk heno Michi - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Naxat Cup - Satellaview Bass Tournament Big Fight - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Naxat Cup - Satellaview Bass Tournament Big Fight - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Naxat Cup - Satellaview Bass Tournament Big Fight - Dai-3-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Naxat Cup - Satellaview Bass Tournament Big Fight - Dai-4-Shuu (Japan)
- BS New Yatterman - Nandai Kandai Yajirobee (Japan)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Exciting!! (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Harukaze ni Fukarete - Fuji-Yama (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Hitori (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Mizuiro no Hito (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Oubo 2 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Sofukonrasubosu (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Vienna Walzer (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu - Score Data - Yume 001 - Theme Song - Battle - Waltz 1996 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu (Japan)
- BS Parlor! Parlor! - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS R no Shosai - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS R no Shosai - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS R no Shosai - Daini Maku - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS R no Shosai - Daini Maku - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS RPG Tsukuru - Super Dante - Cock-A-Doodle-Doo (Japan)
- BS RPG Tsukuru - Super Dante - Uma Tarou Gennarin Daibouken (Japan)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Alf to Hakase no Daibouken (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Jewel of Live 1 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Jewel of Live 2 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Jewel of Live 3 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Kure Kure Mou Race - 2 Gatsugou (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Kure Kure Mou Race - 3 Gatsugou (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Kure Kure Mou Race - 4 Gatsugou (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Organic Stone Honpen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Organic Stone Yokokuhen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Graphic (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Graphic 2 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Kanketsu Hen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Kouhen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Opening (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Sound 1 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Sound 2 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Sound 3 (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - Ryouba de Yuku! - Zenhen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Same Game (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - 1QQQ (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Jiki Q! Henge Q! (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Kokumin no Q Nichi (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Mousugu Haru de Sune (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Music Q Fair (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nenmatsu Jumbo Takara Quiz Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nenmatsu Jumbo Takara Quiz Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nenmatsu Jumbo Takara Quiz Dai-3-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nenmatsu Jumbo Takara Quiz Dai-4-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nihon Series Q Kai Ura 2 Out Manrui! Nazeka Squeeze! (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Nouryou! Natsumatsuri! (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Q Kotachi no Koushien (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Q-1 Grand Prix - Manatsu no Revenge (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Sayonara Heisei Q Nen - Nenmatsu Soukessan! (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Seikai Happyou Magazine (Japan)
- BS Satella Q - Shin Q Omedetou - Pikapika no Q Ninsei (Japan)
- BS Satella Walker 2 - Bottom de Battle (Japan)
- BS Satella Walker 2 - Machi no Heiwa wo Tori Modose! (Japan)
- BS Satella Walker 2 - Mokumoku Kemuri Panic (Japan)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - Australia (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - Frontier Side (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - Ibara no Sono (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - L1 Colony Gun (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - New York City (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS SD Gundam G-Next - North America (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Sim City Machizukuri Taikai - Scenario 1 (Japan)
- BS Sim City Machizukuri Taikai - Scenario 2 (Japan)
- BS Sim City Machizukuri Taikai - Scenario 3 (Japan)
- BS Sim City Machizukuri Taikai - Scenario 4 (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - Boku ha Shi ni Mashien - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - Geinoujin ha Shiga Inochi desu - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - Sailor Fuku wo Datsu ga Sanai de - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - Shall we Dance - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - The Yoru mo Hippare - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal - Tsuki ni Kawatte Oshioki yo! - no Maki (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal for Lovers Vol. 1 - Yougaku Hen (Japan)
- BS Sound Journal for Lovers Vol. 2 - Hougaku Hen (Japan)
- BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - Okiraku Kouza (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - Zapping Gekijou - Kaiketsu Hen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - Zapping Gekijou - Kouhen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - Zapping Gekijou - Zenhen (Japan) (Data Cart)
- BS Spriggan Powered - Dai-1-Wa (Japan)
- BS Spriggan Powered - Dai-2-Wa (Japan)
- BS Spriggan Powered - Dai-3-Wa (Japan)
- BS Spriggan Powered - Dai-4-Wa (Japan)
- BS Super Gussun Oyoyo 2 (Japan)
- BS Super Mario Collection - Dai-1-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Super Mario Collection - Dai-2-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Super Mario Collection - Dai-4-Shuu (Japan)
- BS Super Puyo Puyo Tsuu Remix (Japan)
- BS Takara Hai Oozumou Eisei Basho - Akibasho (Japan)
- BS Takara Hai Oozumou Eisei Basho - Harubasho (Japan)
- BS Takara Hai Oozumou Eisei Basho - Hatsubasho (Japan)
- BS Takara Hai Oozumou Eisei Basho - Natsubasho (Japan)
- BS View Cinema Paradise Vol. 6 (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Aki no Daikanshasai! - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Aki no Daikanshasai! - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Aki no Daikanshasai! - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Aki no Daikanshasai! - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Aki no Daikanshasai! - Dai-5-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Haru no Saiten Special - Dai-1-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Haru no Saiten Special - Dai-2-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Haru no Saiten Special - Dai-3-Kai (Japan)
- BS Waiwai de Q - Haru no Saiten Special - Dai-4-Kai (Japan)
- BS Wario no Mori - Event Version Ver. 1 (Japan)
- BS Yot-chan to Chie Asobi (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu - Dai-1-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu - Dai-2-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu - Dai-4-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu Map 2 - Dai-1-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu Map 2 - Dai-2-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu Map 2 - Dai-3-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu Map 2 - Dai-4-Wa (Japan)
- BS Zelda no Densetsu Remix (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Omoshiro Bamei S (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Kinen Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Kinen Yosen 1 (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Kinen Yosen 2 (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Mile Junkesshou Kesshou (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Mile Yosen 1 (Japan)
- BS Zenkoku Baken Ouja Ketteisen 2 - Satella Mile Yosen 2 (Japan)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 18th February 2007, 14:01 wrote:

Undumped Nintendo Power games:
- AIII S.V. - A Ressha de Ikou 3 Super Version (Japan) (NP)
- Akumajou Dracula XX (Japan) (NP)
- Aretha (Japan) (NP)
- Aretha II - Ariel no Fushigi na Tabi (Japan) (NP)
- Atlas, The - Renaissance Voyager (Japan) (NP)
- Axelay (Japan) (NP)
- Cameltry (Japan) (NP)
- Caravan Shooting Collection (Japan) (NP)
- Chou Makai Taisen! Dorabot-chan (Japan) (NP)
- Chou Makaimura (Japan) (NP)
- Clock Tower (Japan) (NP)
- Contra Spirits (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Cosmo Gang - The Puzzle (Japan) (NP)
- Cosmo Gang - The Video (Japan) (NP)
- Cu-On-Pa SFC (Japan) (NP)
- Daibakushou Jinsei Gekijou - Zukkoke Salary Man Hen (Japan) (NP)
- Daibakushou Jinsei Gekijou (Japan) (NP)
- Demon's Blazon - Makaimura Monshou Hen (Japan) (NP)
- Der Langrisser (Japan) (NP)
- Devil's Course (Japan) (NP)
- Dokapon 3-2-1 - Arashi wo Yobu Yuujou (Japan) (NP)
- Dokapon Gaiden - Honoo no Audition (Japan) (NP)
- Doraemon 3 - Nobita to Toki no Hougyoku (Japan) (NP)
- Doraemon 4 - Nobita to Tsuki no Oukoku (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Dossun! Ganseki Battle (Japan) (NP)
- Down the World - Mervil's Ambition (Japan) (NP)
- Dragon Slayer - Eiyuu Densetsu II (Japan) (NP)
- Earth Light - Luna Strike (Japan) (NP)
- Elfaria II - The Quest of the Meld (Japan) (NP)
- Estpolis Denki (Japan) (NP)
- Feda - The Emblem of Justice (Japan) (NP)
- Final Fight (Japan) (NP)
- Final Fight 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Fire Emblem - Seisen no Keifu (Japan) (NP)
- Firemen, The (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- F-Zero (Japan) (NP)
- Gakkou de Atta Kowai Hanashi (Japan) (NP)
- Ganbare Goemon - Yuki Hime Kyuushutsu Emaki (Japan) (NP)
- Ganbare Goemon 3 - Shishi Juuroku Hyoue no Karakuri Manjigatame (Japan) (NP)
- Gokujou Parodius (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Gradius III (Japan) (NP)
- Heisei Shin Onigashima - Kouhen (Japan) (NP)
- Heisei Shin Onigashima - Zenhen (Japan) (NP)
- Hello! Pac-Man (Japan) (NP)
- Herakles no Eikou III - Kamigami no Chinmoku (Japan) (NP)
- Herakles no Eikou IV - Kamigami Kara no Okurimono (Japan) (NP)
- Igo Club (Japan) (NP)
- Ihatov Monogatari (Japan) (NP)
- Isozuri - Ritou Hen (Japan) (NP)
- Jikkyou World Soccer 2 - Fighting Eleven (Japan) (NP)
- Kamaitachi no Yoru (Japan) (NP)
- Kawa no Nushi Tsuri 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Kessen! Dokapon Oukoku IV - Densetsu no Yuushatachi (Japan) (NP)
- Kid Klown no Crazy Chase (Japan) (NP)
- Kiki Kaikai - Nazo no Kuro Manteau (Japan) (NP)
- Kiki Kaikai - Tsukiyo Soushi (Japan) (NP)
- Kirby Bowl (Japan) (NP)
- Koutetsu no Kishi (Japan) (NP)
- Koutetsu no Kishi 2 - Sabaku no Rommel Gundan (Japan) (NP)
- Koutetsu no Kishi 3 - Gekitotsu Europe Sensen (Japan) (NP)
- Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei (Japan) (NP)
- Last Bible III (Japan) (NP)
- Lennus - Kodai Kikai no Kioku (Japan) (NP)
- Lennus II - Fuuin no Shito (Japan) (NP)
- Libble Rabble (Japan) (NP)
- Lord Monarch (Japan) (NP)
- Magical Drop 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Majin Tensei (Japan) (NP)
- Majin Tensei II - Spiral Nemesis (Japan) (NP)
- Majotachi no Nemuri (Japan) (NP)
- Mario no Super Picross (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Metal Max 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Metal Slader Glory - Director's Cut (Japan) (NP)
- Militia (Japan) (NP)
- Mother 2 - Gyiyg no Gyakushuu (Japan) (NP)
- Namcot Open (Japan) (NP)
- Otogirisou (Japan) (NP)
- Panel de Pon (Japan) (NP)
- Parodius da! - Shinwa Kara Owarai he (Japan) (NP)
- Phalanx - The Enforce Fighter A-144 (Japan) (NP)
- Pop'n TwinBee (Japan) (NP)
- Power Soukoban (Japan) (NP)
- Pro Mahjong Kiwame III (Japan) (NP)
- Puzzle Bobble (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Rockman 7 - Shukumei no Taiketsu! (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Rockman X (Japan) (NP)
- RPG Tsukuru - Super Dante (Japan) (NP)
- Sandro no Daibouken - Valkyrie Tono Deai (Japan) (NP)
- Shanghai III (Japan) (NP)
- Shin Mahjong (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Shin Megami Tensei (Japan) (NP)
- Shin Megami Tensei if... (Japan) (NP)
- Shin Megami Tensei II (Japan) (NP)
- Shin Momotarou Densetsu (Japan) (NP)
- Sim City Jr. (Japan) (NP)
- Ski Paradise with Snowboard (Japan) (NP)
- Soreyuke Ebisumaru Karakuri Meiro - Kieta Goemon no Nazo!! (Japan) (NP)
- Space Invaders - The Original Game (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Street Fighter II Turbo - Hyper Fighting (Japan) (NP)
- Super Black Bass 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Black Bass 3 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Bomberman 3 (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Super Daikoukai Jidai (Japan) (NP)
- Super Donkey Kong (Japan) (NP)
- Super Donkey Kong 2 - Dixie & Diddy (Japan) (NP)
- Super Donkey Kong 3 - Nazo no Krems-tou (Japan) (NP)
- Super Family Tennis (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Super Formation Soccer '96 - World Club Edition (Japan) (NP)
- Super Genjin 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Hanafuda 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Jinsei Game 3 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Mario Collection (Japan) (NP)
- Super Mario World (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Super Metroid (Japan) (NP)
- Super Momotarou Dentetsu II (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Super Nazo Puyo - Lulu no Lu (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Super Okumanchouja Game (Japan) (NP)
- Super Oozumou - Nessen Daiichiban (Japan) (NP)
- Super Puyo Puyo (Japan) (NP)
- Super Shougi 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Trump Collection 2 (Japan) (NP)
- Super Wagan Land (Japan) (NP)
- Super Wagan Land 2 (Japan) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Sword World SFC (Japan) (NP)
- Sword World SFC 2 - Inishie no Kyojin Densetsu (Japan) (NP)
- Tactics Ogre - Let Us Cling Together (Japan) (NP)
- Tadaima Yuusha Boshuuchuu Okawari (Japan) (NP)
- Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (Japan) (Rev A) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, known dump
- Torneco no Daibouken - Fushigi no Dungeon (Japan) (NP) Dumped by MattewCallis, known dump
- Tower Dream (Japan) (NP)
- Tsukikomori (Japan) (NP)
- Tsuri Tarou (Japan) (NP)
- TwinBee - Rainbow Bell Adventure (Japan) (NP)
- Umi no Nushi Tsuri (Japan) (Rev A) (NP) Dumped by Y~K, new dump released
- Wagan Paradise (Japan) (NP)
- Waialae no Kiseki (Japan) (NP)
- Winning Post 2 - Program '96 (Japan) (NP)
- Wizardry Gaiden IV - Taima no Kodou (Japan) (NP)
- Yakouchuu (Japan) (NP)
- Zelda no Densetsu - Kamigami no Triforce (Japan) (NP)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ alcoatjez on 19th February 2007, 08:48 wrote:

Terranigma (G) (v1.1) should be removed from the list, since Badablek dumped it.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ asapy on 19th February 2007, 09:11 wrote:

Has this been already dumped?

Romasing Saga 3 (Sample)(J)
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e65458733

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 19th February 2007, 10:08 wrote:

Quote:
Has this been already dumped?

Romasing Saga 3 (Sample)(J)
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e65458733
Yes it seems so.
We have a sample dump of RS3 in the dat.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ bashieeta on 27th February 2007, 22:49 wrote:

>Chrono Trigger - V-Jump Ban (J)
This is realy normal Chrono Trigger cardridge. The difference is only Package.

>Derby Stallion '98 (J)
>Sutte Hakkun (J)
>Wrecking Crew '98 (J)
in no-intro list we can see

>SD F1 Grand Prix (J) (Beta)
This is equal to SD F1 Grand Prix (J) (Sample)

>EMIT - Value Set (J)
This is Package of every EMIT.

>Game Processor (J)
IS this Japanese ? i think magigom made in HongKong...

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ FitzRoy on 28th February 2007, 04:34 wrote:

You guys are hardcore if you plan on verifying all those NP games. They're probably all redundant data, and I'm skeptical of Ogre Battle being different as well. Might be a better idea to simply seek out the NP exclusives like the Picross series.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 7th March 2007, 02:17 wrote:

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>Chrono Trigger - V-Jump Ban (J)
This is realy normal Chrono Trigger cardridge. The difference is only Package.

>Derby Stallion '98 (J)
>Sutte Hakkun (J)
>Wrecking Crew '98 (J)
in no-intro list we can see

>SD F1 Grand Prix (J) (Beta)
This is equal to SD F1 Grand Prix (J) (Sample)

>EMIT - Value Set (J)
This is Package of every EMIT.

>Game Processor (J)
IS this Japanese ? i think magigom made in HongKong...
That sure was useful. Thank you!

Out of 6 Dumps extracted from NP carts, the following 5 match the dat

NP_Contra Spirits (J).sfc b8cfe377
NP_Firemen, The (J).sfc 15f2271d
NP_Gokujou Parodius (J).sfc 04ee98ed
NP_Rockman 7 - Shukumei no Taiketsu! (J).sfc 31f18dda
NP_Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (J) (v1.1).sfc ae9f3602

The 6th is a v1.1 and a new dump. However, nothing proves the v1.1 does not exist on a regular cart. The chance of having a v1.1 on a NP cart is higher than in regular cart since it most certainly uses the most recent build.

I believe all NP carts are dupes of an existing cart. I don't see Nintendo re-programming a game especially for the NP system, that would make no sense. IMO the NP tags must be removed from the dat, it would make sense only if you can prove games have been reprogrammed for the NP.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ chkiller on 7th March 2007, 21:39 wrote:

NP tag is necessary for the dumps from SF MEMORY CASSETTE
or extracted dumps from encrypted files in the CD used for NP system.
If you want to remove NP tags, you should prove the Mask ROM exists.
At present, 6 dumps are confirmed existence as the Mask ROM.

CONFIRMED:
Bokujou Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Daikaijuu Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Derby Jockey - Kishu Ou heno Michi (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Kirby no Kirakira Kids (J) (NP)
Sutte Hakkun (J) (NP)
Wrecking Crew '98 (J) (NP)

UNCONFIRMED:
Breath of Fire II - Shimei no Ko (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Dragon Slayer - Eiyuu Densetsu (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Fushigi no Dungeon 2 - Fuurai no Shiren (J) (v1.1) (NP)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ bashieeta on 9th March 2007, 19:57 wrote:

>Kirby no Kirakira Kids (J)
Firstly relesed in NP.after that cassette version has released.
both data are quite same ;)

>Bishoujo Mahjong (J) (Unl)
>Chou Dennou Jujutsu Yuugi Curse (J) (Unl)

I'm japanese and can say highly "Never relesed such games by unlicenced makers." :lol: :lol:

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 9th March 2007, 21:49 wrote:

Quote:
>Bishoujo Mahjong (J) (Unl)
>Chou Dennou Jujutsu Yuugi Curse (J) (Unl)

I'm japanese and can say highly "Never relesed such games by unlicenced makers." :lol: :lol:
You are saying these games do not exist? Or are you just saying they have a license?

Quote:
NP tag is necessary for the dumps from SF MEMORY CASSETTE
or extracted dumps from encrypted files in the CD used for NP system.
If you want to remove NP tags, you should prove the Mask ROM exists.
At present, 6 dumps are confirmed existence as the Mask ROM.

CONFIRMED:
Bokujou Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Daikaijuu Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Derby Jockey - Kishu Ou heno Michi (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Kirby no Kirakira Kids (J) (NP)
Sutte Hakkun (J) (NP)
Wrecking Crew '98 (J) (NP)

UNCONFIRMED:
Breath of Fire II - Shimei no Ko (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Dragon Slayer - Eiyuu Densetsu (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Fushigi no Dungeon 2 - Fuurai no Shiren (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Add to the CONFIRMED:
NP_Contra Spirits (J)
NP_Firemen, The (J)
NP_Gokujou Parodius (J)
NP_Rockman 7 - Shukumei no Taiketsu! (J)
NP_Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (J) (v1.1)

As for the unconfirmed, they probably just are rare v1.1
It is highly unlikely a revision was programmed especially for the NP

commented the entries that must be removed
added the known missing v1.0 & v1.1

BTW can NGEfreak tell us how he knows about all those undumped beta? :?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ bashieeta on 10th March 2007, 05:49 wrote:

>You are saying these games do not exist? Or are you just saying they have a license?

These games don't exist. :cry:

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 21st March 2007, 11:19 wrote:

Quote:
CONFIRMED:
Bokujou Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Daikaijuu Monogatari (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Derby Jockey - Kishu Ou heno Michi (J) (v1.1) (NP)
Kirby no Kirakira Kids (J) (NP)
Sutte Hakkun (J) (NP)
Wrecking Crew '98 (J) (NP)
I can confirm Derby Jockey - Kishu Ou heno Michi (J) (v1.1) (NP) is on a regular cart too. The NP tag can be removed. I can post scans if needed.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Sir VG on 27th March 2007, 08:11 wrote:

Does anybody have any tools for dumping? I managed to find a copy of Exertainment Mountain Bike Rally & Speed Racer (U) on eBay.

Either way, I'll work on securing it.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ BigFred on 29th March 2007, 09:41 wrote:

Zidanax might be able to help you since he resides in the US.


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Rif: 1167-2 \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 6th April 2007, 16:06 wrote:

Quote:
Does anybody have any tools for dumping? I managed to find a copy of Exertainment Mountain Bike Rally & Speed Racer (U) on eBay.

Either way, I'll work on securing it.
I guess you lost that auction, but if you have won the other (stunt race), send me your cart, I will dump, scan and document it toroughly. I will also put a few bucks with the carts when I send you back to cover your shipping extras. ;)

I'll send you my details tonight if you are ok.

I'm really glad we started this list. It has progressed A LOT from NGE's list.
We removed a lot of dupe stuff and added undumped revisions.
Thanks to all japanese friends who have contributed (seemingly reliable) data.

Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (J) (v1.1).sfc ae9f3602
exists in both classic cart and NP cart, +1 confirmed!

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ Sir VG on 13th April 2007, 15:33 wrote:

Stunt Race FX wound up being a v1.1 (SNS-CQ-1). Exterior markings failed to indicate the correct version.

You can resume searching for it again.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ BigFred on 13th April 2007, 15:42 wrote:

Actually in this case I'd guess a 1.0 does not exist - at least on a regular retail cart. Maybe a promo can be found?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 13th April 2007, 16:27 wrote:

Quote:
Actually in this case I'd guess a 1.0 does not exist - at least on a regular retail cart. Maybe a promo can be found?
From my duming experience of US carts, a lot of them don't have any revision marking, and still have several known revisions. It applies, among others, to all US carts that don't even have a back sticker.

Sir VG's cart not having an "A" mark doesn't disprove in any way the existence of a v1.0... not to mention back case can be changed easily. Finally, I have dumped the somewhat rare v1.0 of Stunt Race (J) so I'm pretty confident the US release has its v1.0 too.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ FitzRoy on 14th April 2007, 05:26 wrote:

Of my 4 v1.1 carts, 3 are "Assembled in Mexico" and have a molded rather than a paper label on the back. The other 1.1 is a "Made in Japan" with a paper back label, but the label has a "34A" indentation near the top.

However, my Stunt Race FX is a 1.1 and it only has a "00" on the label.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 18th April 2007, 17:47 wrote:

Quote:
Game Processor RAM Cassette (J)
It doesn't appear to be a software. It has no ROM chip and 4 RAM chips of 1MB/chip. I think its purpose is to test the console memory, in other words a processing cassette... According to the owner, he got a black screen when he run it on a console. I don't think it has any software, such a dump probably doesn't exist.

Quote:
Actually in this case I'd guess a 1.0 does not exist - at least on a regular retail cart. Maybe a promo can be found?
You might be right after all. After more checks, it seems that only carts manufactured in Mexico fail to indicate revisions. If we get another report of a v1.1 without a "A" mark, it would be safe to assume the v1.0 is not a commercial cart.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 5th May 2007, 01:09 wrote:

According to the seller, this cart of Mahjong Taikai:
http://cgi.ebay.fr:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8240103535&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:FR:1
has the revision letter "C" (19C)
This confirms there are at least 4 versions: v1.0, v1.1, v1.2 & v1.3
v1.1 & v1.2 are the undumped versions.

On topic:
Derby Stallion III (J) (v1.2) is a Rev B
Hoshi no Kirby - Super Deluxe (J) (v1.2) is a Rev B
Therefore the undumped v1.1 are respectively confirmed.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 5th May 2007, 13:06 wrote:

I have bought a Rev B of Dai-3-Ji on ebay. It probably is the v1.2 and we can safely assume that the v1.1 existence is confirmed.

I have also bought a Rev B of Satellaview BS-X BIOS.
Correction for the dat:
<Satellaview BS-X BIOS (J)
>Satellaview BS-X BIOS (J) (v1.1)
The v1.0 can safely be added to the undumped list.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [070329] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 13th May 2007, 10:41 wrote:

I dumped two Rev0 of Wild Trax Japan, and unfortunately, both were v1.1 :cry:
So both USA & JPN release are initially a v1.1, this is a real mystery
At any rate, I will remove Wild Trax (J) (v1.0) & Stunt Race FX (U) (v1.0) from the undumped lists. They do not exist in a commercial cartridge and I do not want our users & dumpers to purshase more Rev0, thinking they will get a v1.0...

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070505] \ BigFred on 13th May 2007, 11:03 wrote:

I only just realized there is an undumped Wild Trax sample. I bet 1000000 ? this is a v1.0 then. And then there exists most likely a demo of Stunt Race too.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070505] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 13th May 2007, 14:11 wrote:

Maybe, but why RS3 initial release isn't a v1.1? It also has a sample, not?
I fail to see the coherence. :oops:

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists \ wp1040 on 9th July 2007, 14:11 wrote:

Quote:
Does anybody have any tools for dumping? I managed to find a copy of Exertainment Mountain Bike Rally & Speed Racer (U) on eBay.

Either way, I'll work on securing it.
I'm in the US and can dump SNES carts if needed...

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ [-v-] on 15th September 2007, 21:29 wrote:

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Lobo (Megadrive,Snes)-The MD version is very rare because an official cardrige was never released and only a prototype version is available somewhere.Never released a Rom file of the game.Anyway it's similar to Killer Instinct and based on the DC comics' character Lobo,the most violent and nasty of their whole "comic-universe".Also the Snes version is hard to find.
http://win.nuclearabominations.com/gamesofblood.asp

Quote:
I absolutely SWEAR that I saw the Lobo game for sale at Wal-Mart (I think it was the SNES version), but no ROM dumps of it exist, and DP has no listing for it. I KNOW I've seen this game before, in fact, when I saw it, I was with a buddy of mine and we talked about how even though it sucked, I'd probably end up getting it anyway (I'm a huge Lobo fanboy).
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=109582&st=0&p=1325152&#entry1325152


http://churchofvideogames.org/- screenshots

http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?t=995- discussion

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ gorec98979 on 13th October 2007, 20:50 wrote:

anyone know if theres a dump for "FX Fighter (Beta)"?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ alcoatjez on 13th October 2007, 21:18 wrote:

There is no dump for this game. Are you sure this is for the SNES?


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Rif: 1167-3 Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ gorec98979 on 13th October 2007, 21:51 wrote:

it wasnt released commercially and like star fox 2 was only in beta before it was cancelled. here is a info link: http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/article.php?id=0125

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ MatthewCallis on 27th October 2007, 19:30 wrote:

I've got the following games plus some others to dump once my Doctor SF7 (64M) arrives so if you're looking for the NP ones I've got copies to dump so don't spend too much on them.

Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo (J) (NP)
Onita Atsushi FMW (J) (Beta)
Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (J) (NP)

I've played them all side-by-side with their counterpart dumped ROM:
Onita Atsushi FMW (J) (Beta) has at least 1 different portrait in the intro where is shows the fighters than the ROM I played (Onita Atsushi FMW (J)).
Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (J) (NP) has a different highlighted menu and also offeres to load a saved game where the ROM I played (Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (J)) didn't.
Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo (J) (NP) seems to start the first battle somewhere completely different that the ROMs I tried (v1.0 and v1.1) but then again it's really hard to read Japanese when I don't understand it.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ MatthewCallis on 28th December 2007, 19:17 wrote:

I've recieved another cart, for $6.00; they all match the current non-NP dumps.

Mario no Super Picross (J) (NP)
Puzzle Bobble (J) (NP)
Super Family Tennis (J) (NP)
Super Nazo Puyo - Lulu no Lu (J) (NP)

I've got several more to come in later.

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Super Famicom (SNES) unlicensed games Undumped list [20080105] \ coolnation on 6th January 2008, 05:34 wrote:

Hi guys, here are the undumped list for SFC/SNES unlicensed games:

* Super Big 2nd Boss aka. Qiao Ji Da Lao Er (card game featuring characters ripped from Ranma 1/2 and music ripped from Capcom games)
* GAMARS Taiwan Chess (copy-protection, maybe GAMARS custom chip)
* GAMARS Genuine Taiwan Mahjong 16 (copy-protection, maybe GAMARS custom chip, Btw: this cart is in blue color as opposed to the gray one)
* Tekken 2 (may need redump as this current dump is bad)
* Soulblade - does it exist?..
* Street Fighter EX?? - Note: this game was previously dumped by romar (I still remember him ;) ) a while back, he was kind enough to show me his homepage with his SNES dumps and redumps..sadly his page is gone now and I've lost the rom due to HD crash/virus... too bad... :cry: ... game may be sold in Brazil only
* A Bugs Life (Genesis/MD version is dumped, game may be sold in Brazil only)
* Desert Fire (PD) - I saw this ad from the C64 emulator snes rom by Image does it exist?
* Outrun (game ported from Sega) - rumored to exist in some 8-in-1 multicartridge...
* King of Fighters' 96 - rumored to exist, game may be sold in Brazil only
* King of Fighters' 2000 - rumored to exist, game may be sold in Brazil only

Notes: Both Super Big 2nd Boss and GAMARS Taiwan Chess was dumped a long time ago by a friend of mine using SF Game Doctor but it seems the rom dump for those 2 games were not successful (incomplete and bad) due to some copy protection scheme.
Super Big 2 has copy-protection, even the dump is bad,the game will still run, however, it will lock up at some point during game play and I lost the rom and cart is already broken :cry:

If anybody knows any of the games listed above and the attached photo below..Most of these games seems extremely rare so its really difficult to come by.
Any info is appreciated Thanks :)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ d4s on 8th January 2008, 11:16 wrote:

Quote:
It doesn't appear to be a software. It has no ROM chip and 4 RAM chips of 1MB/chip. I think its purpose is to test the console memory, in other words a processing cassette... According to the owner, he got a black screen when he run it on a console. I don't think it has any software, such a dump probably doesn't exist.
As far as i know, the game processor carts were part of a development machine similar to the Yaroze Playstation.
I do own two of these carts and one contains a small game that can be hacked to display a badly drawn titlescreen.
Current theory is that these machines were used to train programmers, but not released to the general public.
An Usa-patent for the machine is available online: http://freepatentsonline.com/5680534.html
Some additional pictures can be found on my homepage: http://www.dforce3000.de

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 8th January 2008, 15:32 wrote:

Nice informative post, thank you. Not that I doubt you but could you provide us cartridges & PCBs front scans and the ROM image of that program? It will be useful to document these oddities.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 15th January 2008, 17:23 wrote:

I reformatted the lists to match the naming Convention.
Updated lists with MattewCallis & d4s infos.
Also added my newer NP dumps (matching known dumps).

To-Do:
-Move unlicenced and non-retail carts to their own list.
-Exploit coolnation's list

@Mattew
I assume that regardless of your post above, "Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (J) (NP)" & "Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo (J) (NP)" matched the known dumps?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20070817] \ MatthewCallis on 15th January 2008, 17:49 wrote:

Quote:
@Matthew
I assume that regardless of your post above, "Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium (J) (NP)" & "Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo (J) (NP)" matched the known dumps?
Yes sir, everything has matched so far :oops: .

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080115] \ Yuki on 21st January 2008, 11:53 wrote:

"Magical Drop 2 Bunka Housou Version" is Dump done?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080115] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 28th January 2008, 22:03 wrote:

X-Terminator2 (Europe) (Unl)
Pro Action Replay - High Tech Option Series (Japan) (Unl)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080115] \ MatthewCallis on 28th January 2008, 23:48 wrote:

Time to update some lists!

Nintendo Power Matching Known Dumps:
Doraemon 4 - Nobita to Tsuki no Oukoku (Japan) (NP)
Shin Mahjong (Japan) (NP)
Space Invaders - The Original Game (Japan) (NP)
Super Mario World (Japan) (NP)
Super Momotarou Dentetsu II (Japan) (NP)
Torneco no Daibouken - Fushigi no Dungeon (Japan) (NP)

Redump No Longer Needed:
Riverse Kids (J) (Unl) [CRC was bad 10/10 times, but the same]

Looking at my BS-X cart, it has an offical stam of A, however someone has etched a B under it. On the chip serial its SHVC-ZBSJ-1. Header revision is 1.1. CRC is: F51F07A0

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080115] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 29th January 2008, 10:34 wrote:

Updated lists with MattewCallis infos.

*striked matching NP redumps & BS-X (Rev A) which is officially (Rev AB) now
*added Ganbare Goemon Kirakira Douchuu - Boku ga Dancer ni Natta Riyuu (Japan) (Rev A)

@MattewCallis
When you don't create a wiki entry, could you post your redumps' NSRT log in your redump thread please? It's easier to keep track of them that way. Thanks for your awesome work.

Quote:
"Magical Drop 2 Bunka Housou Version" is Dump done?
I don't know... Is it different from Magical Drop 2 (Japan) ? Any picture?

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Re: Super Famicom (SNES) unlicensed games Undumped list [20080105] (update: more pics found!!) \ coolnation on 9th February 2008, 07:57 wrote:

Quote:
Hi guys, here are the undumped list for SFC/SNES unlicensed games:

* Super Big 2nd Boss aka. Qiao Ji Da Lao Er (card game featuring characters ripped from Ranma 1/2 and music ripped from Capcom games)
* GAMARS Taiwan Chess (copy-protection, maybe GAMARS custom chip)
* GAMARS Genuine Taiwan Mahjong 16 (copy-protection, maybe GAMARS custom chip, Btw: this cart is in blue color as opposed to the gray one)
I found some photos regarding GAMARS Genuine Taiwan Mahjong 16 and
GAMARS Taiwan Chess
..please reference..

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Re: Super Famicom (SNES) unlicensed games Undumped list [20080105] (update: more pics found!!) \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 9th February 2008, 09:09 wrote:

Quote:
I found some photos regarding GAMARS Genuine Taiwan Mahjong 16 and
GAMARS Taiwan Chess
..please reference..
Nice pictures, thanks.
Do you know if these games are made from scratch or translations/hacks?

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Re: Super Famicom (SNES) unlicensed games Undumped list [20080105] (update: more pics found!!) \ coolnation on 11th February 2008, 09:09 wrote:

Quote:
Nice pictures, thanks.
Do you know if these games are made from scratch or translations/hacks?
Hi Y~K,
I think they (Gamars SFC/SNES games) are made from scratch(they seem to be genuine pirate originals not hacks)... Note: that the GAMARS Genuine Taiwan 16 Mahjong is completely different from the current SNES rom dump: Taiwan 16 Mahjong II - Horoscope Girls Edition (Unl)(no company info) which I used to own this cart too, I assume it is made by the same pirate company who made Super Big 2nd Boss aka. Qiao Ji Da Lao Er
If those pictures are found, will be posted here ;)

hope this info helps, thanks :)


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Rif: 1167-4 Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080115] \ Yuki on 11th February 2008, 09:51 wrote:

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Updated lists with MattewCallis infos.

I don't know... Is it different from Magical Drop 2 (Japan) ? Any picture?
It is a Present version of "Magical Drop 2".
It was Presented by "Bunka Housou" of radio programs by people in the small
portion.
The character is different from a normal version.
It is very unusual.
And, it is large amount of money.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080129] \ Tori on 3rd March 2008, 08:17 wrote:

Hello world! (Sorry, I didn't know how to introduce myself ~___^)

I have a "Street Racer" cartridge, its serial is SNSP-ASRP-EUR, but in the upper-right corner of the label, it says "SNSP-006-(-01)", "34A" on the back label, and when I opened it, the chip says "SPAL-ASRP-1"...
But wherever I look, I can't find any reference to a Rev A or v1.1 version of the game... Are they identical, or do I own an undumped game ?

And, as I'm new here, I wanted to know where I could post additional serials for games ? (ie : SNSP-ATFP-FAH for Tetris & Dr. Mario (Europe))

Thank you for your help...

Tori.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080129] \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 3rd March 2008, 11:40 wrote:

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It is a Present version of "Magical Drop 2".
It was Presented by "Bunka Housou" of radio programs by people in the small
portion.
The character is different from a normal version.
It is very unusual.
And, it is large amount of money.
Yes that one appears to be in the undumped list.

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Hello world! (Sorry, I didn't know how to introduce myself ~___^)

I have a "Street Racer" cartridge, its serial is SNSP-ASRP-EUR, but in the upper-right corner of the label, it says "SNSP-006-(-01)", "34A" on the back label, and when I opened it, the chip says "SPAL-ASRP-1"...
But wherever I look, I can't find any reference to a Rev A or v1.1 version of the game... Are they identical, or do I own an undumped game ?

And, as I'm new here, I wanted to know where I could post additional serials for games ? (ie : SNSP-ATFP-FAH for Tetris & Dr. Mario (Europe))

Thank you for your help...

Tori.
That's indeed an undumped cart, congratz! :P

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080129] \ Tori on 7th March 2008, 07:40 wrote:

Now I know I have un undumped ROM, but... I can't dump it... Could someone help me ?


How can I know the version of a cartridge with "Assembled in Mexico" on the front label ?
There's no number/letter on the back label, and the name on the chip doesn't indicate which version it is...
If someone could help : It's a Judge Dredd cartridge (SNSP-AJDP-EUR)... There's a white A (like a stamped one) on the printed circuit... Does it mean it's a Rev A ?? In that case, the game would be undumped, or am I wrong ?

I also have a version of Sonic Wings (SHVC-HW) with no back label, a blurry front label, a sticker "PAL VERSION" on the front (and it's indeed a PAL version...), and the screws are in plastic... I couldn't open it, it started ruining the screws :cry:
It's certainly a pirate cartridge... Is it worth dumping ?


Sorry for all the info, but as I have no camera... :oops:

Tori.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080129] \ MatthewCallis on 30th March 2008, 03:50 wrote:

After going through *most* of my BS-X memory carts I've found that I have:
Titles: "SOUND NOVEL #"
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 1 x2
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 2
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 3 x2
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 4 x2
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 5
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 6
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 7
BS Sound Novel Tsukuru - 8

Titles: "RPG????2 ***#" *Kanji
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 1
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 2
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 3
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 4
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 5
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 6
BS RPG Tsukuru 2 - 7

BS Zelda no Densetsu - Kamigami no Triforce (Japan)

Several "Kanaderu Convert" which does nothing apparent but kills all the music.

As seen here, the last was what I got with the 4 BLANK ONES :o
(see attachment)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080129] \ MatthewCallis on 3rd May 2008, 11:36 wrote:

Acquired:
Super Momotarou Dentetsu DX - Jr Nishi-Nihon Presents (Japan)

As in, dump pending, not just bought.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ kiddocabbusses on 5th May 2008, 07:09 wrote:

Um... hello.

I'm trying to learn about the Satellaview. I don't have any ROMs to dump or anything, but I hope I can be of help here anyhow.

I'll see if there's anything I can contribute.

I go on NicoNicoDouga to check for BS-X videos, and they have videos for some of the things listed in the undumped list:

BS Dezaemon (all 3 games)
BS Fuurai no Shiren (all 4 episodes)
BS Super Mario Collection Dai-1-shuu (only half an hour of footage. :cry: )

They also have an ad which shows a "BS Torneko no Daibouken". Is that dumped as a ROM?

"KANADERU CONVERT" is probably one of the Ongaku Tsukuru Kanaderu Data Carts. I can't identify any further than that though without help, though.

BS F-Zero 2... is confusing. NicoNicoDouga has a video of BS F-Zero 2 Dai-1-Shuu... It has two "FOREST" tracks. I can't find a ROM of that. I also wonder if the "BS F-Zero 2" ROM going around is actually the practice ROM, but I can't verify.

I can't get "Kirby no Omachabako - Guru Guru ball" or "Hoshi Kuzushi" to run on any emulator, even ones that tote BS-X Support (And I've successfully loaded BS Tantei Club and various others.)

Does the "BS Wario's Woods Event Version 1" refer to the "Burst of Laughter" version noted in it's Wikipedia article?

Sorry if the post is long. I got some more questions, but I'll save them for a bit later.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ FitzRoy on 8th May 2008, 23:17 wrote:

Okay, I had a post somewhere else about the European dump situation somewhere but let me summarize here where we're at with that:

We know there are a ton of undumped European games, we simply don't know which regions we currently have dumped as most internal rom codes are generic "Europe" despite the actual region in which it was released. We'll have a way better picture when a total redump is done that actually retains serial information, because then we can target serials/regions that haven't been dumped and it will yield many new dumps.

That said, I have combined, for myself, lists and databases people have made on the web to create a master list of all currently known European serials. This might not seem too useful at the moment, but here's why it is: there are entries in the No-Intro database whose only known difference is language. Here's an example:

Flashback (Europe) (En,Fr)
Flashback (Europe) (En,Fr,De)

At first sight, you're going, wtf? Both are 1.0 roms, both have the same region, so it appears to be an alternate dump or beta, right? Wrong. The region information is incomplete/wrong. Here are the known serials for the game:

SNSP-5F-FAH, SNSP-5F-NOE, SNSP-5F-SCN, SNSP-5F-UKV

There never was a "EUR" serial for this game. It only saw regional releases. Which region pertains to which rom, and do we even have all the roms? Who the fuck knows, right? I bet SCN hasn't as that's Scandinavia and those people's language isn't in current dumps. The only inference we can make from this data is that the NOE cart yields the second one as NOE is almost always Germany.

So that brings us back to the SCN line of thinking. We know that HOL and SCN are probably the rarest and least dumped games. In fact, the only known HOL dump is Lufia (Netherlands). But here's a list of other serials I found on the web corresponding to the Netherlands.

Aladdin (SNSP-RJ-HOL)
Illusion of Time (SNSP-JG-HOL)
Legend of Zelda, The - A Link to the Past (SNSP-ZL-HOL)
Mystic Quest Legend (SNSP-MQ-HOL)
Pac-Man 2 - The New Adventures (SNSP-25-HOL)
Secret of Evermore (SNSP-AEOP-HOL)
Secret of Mana (SNSP-K2-HOL)
SimCity (SNSP-SC-HOL)

These are probably all undumped unique games, and you would never know to look for them or add them to the list if you ignore the serial numbers on carts, particularly European carts.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ BigFred on 9th May 2008, 11:49 wrote:

Nintendo uses a special system for their serials. The SNES uses 2 different ones - an old AAAA-XX-YYY system and the new AAAA-XXXX-YYY one. The later is also used on the N64, GBC, GBA and many others.

In both cases the -YYY part means nothing. if AAAA-XX or AAAA-XXXX is the same, it will be the same dump. The old system uses an additional slash to devide between gernan, french and so on versions.

Example:

Aladdin:

SNSP-RJ-NOE/SFRG
SNSP-RJ-FAH/SFRA
SNSP-RJ-ESP/SESP

A release coming without the / matches the english only version.

Both - NOE and FAH versions of Flashback for instance were redumped and both match Flashback (Europe) (En,Fr,De). The other version might be a Beta or an unknown serial.

The new system uses the last letter of the middle part for country information.

Secret of Evermore (SNSP-AEOP-HOL)

P means "Europe". Any release which has a P here is the same. E is the US-version, J japan and so on - The german release as an example will be SNSP-AEOD for sure. A real dutch language release would be SNSP-AEOH-HOL

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I made a similar notice long time ago and it was totally ignored, go figure.
Game Boy is different and indeed provides no information about what is really inside.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 9th May 2008, 11:55 wrote:

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We know there are a ton of undumped European games
We do? I don't, and you're just assuming it too. Your entire argument is based on the multiple available serials per game. The simple fact is though that in almost all cases (I bet 99%) every serial contains exactly the same rom.

How do I know? I don't, but the vast majority of my redumps weren't originally dumped in Germany afaik (which means there weren't too many NOE carts dumped) but most of my redumps came from NOE carts. Not a single one of them differed.

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Aladdin (SNSP-RJ-HOL)
Illusion of Time (SNSP-JG-HOL)
Legend of Zelda, The - A Link to the Past (SNSP-ZL-HOL)
Mystic Quest Legend (SNSP-MQ-HOL)
Pac-Man 2 - The New Adventures (SNSP-25-HOL)
Secret of Evermore (SNSP-AEOP-HOL)
Secret of Mana (SNSP-K2-HOL)
SimCity (SNSP-SC-HOL)

These are probably all undumped unique games
No, they are not. I don't know why you are assuming they are. It's well-known that Lufia was the only SNES game localized for the dutch market. None of the games you list above contains Dutch as a language. There's no reason to believe they contain a different rom. I haven't investigated Flashback but for all the other alternate dumps I looked at back when I worked on the NSRT database had some reason behind them. Like different publishers in different countries. Flashback possibly got an earlier release outside of Germany because of localization troubles and the fact that the UK was crazy about this game. Thus the version without German was released earlier and the one with german later on when it was done. Of course this is just a theory, but it's more likely that such a reason can be found for the few anomalies than your assumption.

Btw, why the limit to SNES? All Nintendo systems used these serials.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ Blade Arts on 9th May 2008, 12:28 wrote:

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It's well-known that Lufia was the only SNES game localized for the dutch market.
It's well known? Can you back up this claim?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 9th May 2008, 12:55 wrote:

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It's well known? Can you back up this claim?
Well, there's no official quote from Nintendo stating "we were to stupid to publish any dutch game before the DS-era except Lufia for the SNES" if that's what you are looking for.

But even inside the dutch gaming community they say it is. As an example it is mentioned in this DS-related news: http://www.nedergamen.nl/nieuws/braintrainernews which states that Brain Training will be the first localized game ever except Lufia published by Nintendo. Of course you could argue that there are other publishers. Feel free to go ahead and ask any dutch gamer old enough to remember the SNES about dutch screentexts. They'll all come up with the same answer. Feel free to do so here: http://www.nintendoweb.nl/forum/index.php

Btw, can you back up the claim that there are dutch snes games besides Lufia? ;)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ FitzRoy on 9th May 2008, 12:59 wrote:

hydr0x, normally games with a lot of text (note: RPGs, of which that list is mostly comprised), ARE localized releases for language comprehension reasons. That is why I believe those games are not dumped.

And regarding flashback, the only way to prove me wrong is to go find the other two cart serials and dump them. If they come up the same as the two you claim to have already dumped, then your case becomes a lot stronger overnight. Otherwise, I think you are making the less likely predictions. Just looking at the dumps made over the last few years, all we ever get out USA and Japan are new revisions while a great many uniques have trickled in from Europe. German versions of Secret of Mana (or was it Evermore) are recent discoveries, King of Dragons was well known and took forever for someone to dump, and look at how long it took to get "Cool World (Europe)" which is actually a localized Spain cart. Many of these European carts are incredibly hard to find and no one realizes it because no one is paying any attention to serials.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ BigFred on 9th May 2008, 13:47 wrote:

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And regarding flashback, the only way to prove me wrong is to go find the other two cart serials and dump them. If they come up the same as the two you claim to have already dumped, then your case becomes a lot stronger overnight. Otherwise, I think you are making the less likely predictions.
The serials are documented with NGE's dat-releases. The english, french release is not verified yet. And the whole serial system is based on loads and loads of dumps for several systems and yet anyone has to come up and disprove it. The -NOE -FAH part and so on doesn't appear on the rom-chip. It's simply cut off. Means the chip will contain a rom like SNSP-5F-0 or PAL-5F-0 or similar. Only when the serial is extended as posted above it will be SFRG-XX-0 etc. Besides scandinavian translations are very rare even nowadays - not to speak of SNES-times so it is questionable anyway to think all the hundreds of -SCN releases would be translated games.

Btw: I remember a talk with CUE about his Legend of Zelda cart. He claimed it had spanish screentext and the serial was SNSP-ZL-ESP. I asked him to try it out since I was sure it would be english only like this and he denied several times insisting to clearly remember the game was translated. After a long period he finally checked and it was english. Besides: Zelda, Secret of Mana - it would be more than a miracle if these had any undumped versions. Everyone has these.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 9th May 2008, 15:11 wrote:

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hydr0x, normally games with a lot of text (note: RPGs, of which that list is mostly comprised), ARE localized releases for language comprehension reasons. That is why I believe those games are not dumped.
This is once again a wrong assumption once again. Before the CD era localized versions were very rare. Example: Zelda on the NES didn't even get a german version. In the 16-Bit the number of localizations increased, starting in Germany where Nintendo tried to sell german versions of the RPGs (please note that only because of Nintendo it was done, Square and others had no interest in localizing games back then). Other countries weren't as lucky and the number of games localized for the other markets was very very low. Even for the bigger countries like Spain with a relative low percentage of English speakers there were close to zero localizations. For the Benelux and Scandinavia where almost everyone speaks English (no dubbed movies either) and who have less probable buyers there were only a hand full of localized games. For dutch, only one. If you don't believe me, why don't you just ask the dutch gamers in that forum? If there was a Dutch Secret of Mana, don't you think they would know?

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And regarding flashback, the only way to prove me wrong is to go find the other two cart serials and dump them.
We don't have to prove you wrong. You made up your theory, you've got to prove it. Go ahead and buy them, lose Flashbacks aren't expensive.

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German versions of Secret of Mana (or was it Evermore) are recent discoveries
I have no idea where you are getting this from. Every german gamer interested in SNES or owning one back in the day knows these games exist in German. Heck, there were even TV spots advertising that very fact.

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King of Dragons was well known and took forever for someone to dump, and look at how long it took to get "Cool World (Europe)" which is actually a localized Spain cart.
King of Dragons only took a while because no one wanted to pay for it. It's collectors value is about 20-30 lose. That's the only reasons. It's existence has been known for years, if not always. Cool World was indeed a "recent" discovery because it was only released in Spain and thus is quite rare. I don't get the connection to your theory though as an completely unknown game has nothing to do with mysterious and non-existant variants.

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Many of these European carts are incredibly hard to find and no one realizes it because no one is paying any attention to serials.
That's just not true. You seem to have a very limited rom guy point-of-view. You DO realize there are people out there who collect the actual games, right? Do you really believe they do not know about the variants and stuff like that?

Besides, most rare european carts (there aren't many, only boxed games are actually rare) are country-exclusives like X Zone, Cool World, Whirlo, Syvalion (although this one got imported to Italy with an additional manual) and Super Chase HQ.


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Rif: 1167-5 Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ FitzRoy on 10th May 2008, 01:01 wrote:

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You seem to have a very limited rom guy point-of-view. You DO realize there are people out there who collect the actual games, right? Do you really believe they do not know about the variants and stuff like that?
I think this mystical collector scene is way, way smaller and more seclusive than you think. Few people have the time, money, and willpower to do as you're suggesting, and the ones that do would have to both dump and share their collections for us to know that my predicted variants exist. That doesn't happen.

And if this collector scene actually does exist, would you mind telling them to come over here and at least share their serial lists with me? Thanks, I would have saved about three weeks scouring the internet, combining four partial lists, and still coming up short.

Anyway, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong about just how many unique variants are out there in multi-serial games, it is simply better to be documenting and targeting undumped serials. The alternative is what...? Dumping one and assuming all the other serials match? Sorry, that is simply dumb, and not having done it in the first place is going to cost dumpers today a lot more money than they should have getting it started, because already dumped serials will have to be repurchased.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 10th May 2008, 06:23 wrote:

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I think this mystical collector scene is way, way smaller and more seclusive than you think. Few people have the time, money, and willpower to do as you're suggesting, and the ones that do would have to both dump and share their collections for us to know that my predicted variants exist. That doesn't happen.
You aren't a collector but you want to teach me (a collector) about the collecting scene? Nice try ;)

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And if this collector scene actually does exist, would you mind telling them to come over here and at least share their serial lists with me? Thanks, I would have saved about three weeks scouring the internet, combining four partial lists, and still coming up short.
My serial list is not public yet for various reasons not related to the rom scene. But of course there are databases out there like vgrebirth that already try to collect them. You could of course have asked first about the matter instead of complaining afterwards about the work, right?

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Anyway, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong about just how many unique variants are out there in multi-serial games, it is simply better to be documenting and targeting undumped serials.
NGEfreak IS listing the dumped serials afaik. In theory it's right that any undumped serial should be documented too but in fact it would be a replication of something collectors are doing. Why not just take a look at those lists if you really want to dump all the serials? While there's no really good PAL snes list out there (yet) there's no reason to believe you could collect a better one than the collecting scene which has proven their data collection skills with sites like HOL Amiga, Lemon, Defconsoft, guardiana and so on.

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The alternative is what...? Dumping one and assuming all the other serials match?
We are not assuming it. We know the serial system used by Nintendo and it changes the serial in a different way than those country-endings for actually differing roms.

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Sorry, that is simply dumb, and not having done it in the first place is going to cost dumpers today a lot more money than they should have getting it started, because already dumped serials will have to be repurchased.
Like I said, for the last years NGEfreak has been doing it. Maybe the early scene did too in NFOs but the current databases don't reflect that? I don't know, I had no connection to the rom scene when it was basically a warez scene.

Your redumping strategy relies on dumpers willing to shell out really big bucks (I'd approximate the total costs at 15.000-20.000 including shipping) to dump hundreds and hundreds of games they practically know will not be new ones. I know only one guy in the scene crazy enough for that, and that's YK.

You are asking people to pay A LOT just because you have a theory. A theory that's not even based on any real occurrence, any known fact about the existing dumps. The cost/use ratio isn't right, even if your theory would be correct. If it is we would probably get a couple of undumped regional variants with additional languages. Mind you, only of not so important games as translated versions of a Zelda would be known. 5 new spanish/italian/whatever translation dumps of unimportant games are not worth 20.000. There are better uses in the preservation scene for 20.000, like acquiring undumped unreleased prototypes.

By the way, it's more likely that some unknown 1.1 version is out there. I don't see you asking people to spend a fortune on finding those!? Of course the process of buying all the carts is the same for both situations. I'm not against it, if someone (ok, in reality, only YK will do so) goes out and invests those 20.000 I won't stop him. I'm sure we will scour up one or two new dumps in the process, for whatever reason and it will be a nice documentation for both scenes. It's just that I can tell you in advance that the outcome won't be better than those few dumps and you should stop trying to make believe that there's more out there. You have to be honest with them if you want them to invest their money and time. If you can't be honest about it, just do it yourself.

That said, I'll ask NGEfreak whether he knows the serials of my dumps and if not provide him with them.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ michal99 on 10th May 2008, 08:22 wrote:

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You aren't a collector but you want to teach me (a collector) about the collecting scene? Nice try ;)

My serial list is not public yet for various reasons not related to the rom scene. But of course there are databases out there like vgrebirth that already try to collect them. You could of course have asked first about the matter instead of complaining afterwards about the work, right?

NGEfreak IS listing the dumped serials afaik. In theory it's right that any undumped serial should be documented too but in fact it would be a replication of something collectors are doing. Why not just take a look at those lists if you really want to dump all the serials? While there's no really good PAL snes list out there (yet) there's no reason to believe you could collect a better one than the collecting scene which has proven their data collection skills with sites like HOL Amiga, Lemon, Defconsoft, guardiana and so on.

We are not assuming it. We know the serial system used by Nintendo and it changes the serial in a different way than those country-endings for actually differing roms.

Like I said, for the last years NGEfreak has been doing it. Maybe the early scene did too in NFOs but the current databases don't reflect that? I don't know, I had no connection to the rom scene when it was basically a warez scene.

Your redumping strategy relies on dumpers willing to shell out really big bucks (I'd approximate the total costs at 15.000-20.000 including shipping) to dump hundreds and hundreds of games they practically know will not be new ones. I know only one guy in the scene crazy enough for that, and that's YK.

You are asking people to pay A LOT just because you have a theory. A theory that's not even based on any real occurrence, any known fact about the existing dumps. The cost/use ratio isn't right, even if your theory would be correct. If it is we would probably get a couple of undumped regional variants with additional languages. Mind you, only of not so important games as translated versions of a Zelda would be known. 5 new spanish/italian/whatever translation dumps of unimportant games are not worth 20.000. There are better uses in the preservation scene for 20.000, like acquiring undumped unreleased prototypes.

By the way, it's more likely that some unknown 1.1 version is out there. I don't see you asking people to spend a fortune on finding those!? Of course the process of buying all the carts is the same for both situations. I'm not against it, if someone (ok, in reality, only YK will do so) goes out and invests those 20.000 I won't stop him. I'm sure we will scour up one or two new dumps in the process, for whatever reason and it will be a nice documentation for both scenes. It's just that I can tell you in advance that the outcome won't be better than those few dumps and you should stop trying to make believe that there's more out there. You have to be honest with them if you want them to invest their money and time. If you can't be honest about it, just do it yourself.

That said, I'll ask NGEfreak whether he knows the serials of my dumps and if not provide him with them.

As for my experience 4 of 5 hardcore collectors (read who has a near or full sets of anything) have no clue about how is his collection compared to rom situation and in most case they are not familiar with anything about the roms nor dumping (most of the time even computer is a problem). That's because they have the real carts and they are in no needs to collect the roms. Hence what you are trying to tell us about collection scene is not true. I can say I know a good portion of these people and if they have an undump game, which of course they have, they are not willing to share anything except a blur picture of the cart and a little informations. Of course there are a few exceptions as always.

About the money spend and chance to find anything new. From my redumping experience the Euro market is in bad shape compare to USA/Japan. I did not redump as much as the others, but the ratio of getting something new is really high on me and I did not look for any special carts nor rares or anything I just pick up the common carts and they show up as new dumps. Like Darxide for 32x which I discovered and the scene did not know that this game even exist.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ kiddocabbusses on 10th May 2008, 16:56 wrote:

Um, sorry to intrude upon the mildly confusing conversation about minor ROM Dump variations and whatnot, but..

Do you guys mind if I post a video URL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrSIcO0098

This looks like a little slideshow for the Satellaview. It sort of matches the format "3ji no Wide Show" has, except with less text and more pictures of live people. It's not really a game, but is there any ROM dump of it or anything of the sort? Obviously this isn't nearly as big a deal to me as some of the other Satellaview things I'm looking for, but it might have some strange value to it...

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 12th May 2008, 06:09 wrote:

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As for my experience 4 of 5 hardcore collectors (read who has a near or full sets of anything) have no clue about how is his collection compared to rom situation and in most case they are not familiar with anything about the roms nor dumping (most of the time even computer is a problem). That's because they have the real carts and they are in no needs to collect the roms. Hence what you are trying to tell us about collection scene is not true. I can say I know a good portion of these people and if they have an undump game, which of course they have, they are not willing to share anything except a blur picture of the cart and a little informations. Of course there are a few exceptions as always.
Yeah but they don't have to know about the rom situation to be of help. I was mainly talking about "them" creating a database of those serials. And that's exactly what has been done for other systems by that scene, because it's very important info for them. The only thing they usually don't catalogue is rom-specific info. But that's not necessary. It's easy to compare the dump situation with their serial list or use it as a basis for an undumped list. About a lot of them not willing to dump undumped stuff, while I feel it's mainly true for proto collectors, it's definitely true. But it's completely unrelated to the matter discussed here.

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About the money spend and chance to find anything new. From my redumping experience the Euro market is in bad shape compare to USA/Japan. I did not redump as much as the others, but the ratio of getting something new is really high on my and I did not look for any special carts nor rares or anything I just pick up the common carts and they show up as new dumps. Like Darxide for 32x which I discovered and the scene did not know that this game even exist.
How much SNES did you dump? It's one of the easiest systems to dump and one of the most popular too. That means chances of things being already dumped are a lot higher than on other systems like NES (difficult to dump), 32X (no one has it) or Japanese games in general. I dumped something >150 PAL SNES games over the last years. I don't have the exact numbers but iirc about 10-15 of those were new dumps. Most of these were deliberately bought undumped games (either totally undumped or undumped (spanish) variants). Only 2-3 new dumps were unexpected and all of those were just 1.1 versions. 0 were unknown localized variants.

The main point you two are missing is this one: If there was a localized variant of Secret of Mana out there, the gamers would know it, at least the gamers of that country. It's pretty arrogant of you to assume the Dutch, Swedish or Spanish can't remember that one of the best-selling RPGs of that time was released in their native language.

Btw, you found DarXide in 99, right? I'm pretty sure I know a dutch collector who had it earlier. It's just that the 32X hadn't got any kind of community behind it, let alone a database of released pal games back then. That's not in the slightest comparable to the situation we have today, especially with one of the most common and popular systems around.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ frsoldier on 12th May 2008, 12:09 wrote:

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Do you guys mind if I post a video URL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrSIcO0098

hello, I was very curious about your video posted and I asked to my friend some info about it:

The girl's name is Nae Yuki.
This Movie 'Ashita ni nareba'(means If it will be tomorrow) seems to
program broadcast from April 28th 1995 through March 25th 1996.
The broadcast station's name is St.GIGA.
It is Radio Station with Data broadcast.

Japanese text was broadcasted from the satellite.
so, no text in the super famicom's rom.
(rom is only for browser)

The Japanese text meaning,
00:00 - 00:06 Now loading.
00:08 - 00:10 Nae Yuki / Ashita ni nareba (=If it will be tomorrow) /
picnic chapter
00:11 - 00:14 Futsuota explosion / Quiz of lunch box / Park explosion
/ Nae's treasure search / The mystery in the park / byebye picnic
00:15 - 00:15 Futsuota explosion
00:20 - 00:21 Quiz of lunch.
00:23 - 00:24 Which lunch dose Nae eat?
00:25 - 00:25 Send your answer and get present. (target address=St.GIGA)

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friend said all the text is broadcasted by satellite, so no snes rom, maybe ?

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ hydr0x on 12th May 2008, 16:53 wrote:

on a different note:

Has anyone dumped any PAL Acclaim games that stated "Assembled in Mexico" on the front label and had a different "label" on the back?!?

I noticed this on Champions World Class Soccer and recently stumbled upon two Acclaim carts in a used game shop who had the same anomaly.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ kiddocabbusses on 13th May 2008, 17:05 wrote:

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friend said all the text is broadcasted by satellite, so no snes rom, maybe ?
Thanks for the info! It helped double-check my confirmation that this was indeed sent on the Satellaview.

I assume what your friend meant is that the ROM that you received into the memory pak transferred text and photo data from the Satellite... I don't know how true that is, but it sounds like it'd be a valid explanation to me as to why a lot of the "Non-game" dumps in particular are bad (Like "Dan Dan Conveyor Belt: Ukuelele no Naki" and I believe one or two others(sp?)). Of course, then that leaves the question of why some are, um, good?

Considering we have ROM dumps of at least two other, um, things that look similar in style to that, I'm fairly sure that someone could dump it if it was found in a memory pak somewhere... of course, then the question would be if it was worth it.

Anyway, thanks. I'll link this as a token of appreciation for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar69Tq8LhCE

Yes, I took one of the Dezaemon vids from NicoNicoDouga and put it on Youtube. Most of the other Satellaview vids are too large to fit within Youtube's limits, so I'm preparing some other ways to view them. (The blog I'm setting up currently looks like crap though, so I'm not linking it yet.)

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ relax on 13th May 2008, 18:14 wrote:

I played with my old computer, and discovered this old SNES list from the year 2000. :o It's fun to read what was out there 8 years ago, and it might even be useful, as the checksums of quite a few suspected hacked ROMs are listed.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ kiddocabbusses on 15th May 2008, 05:28 wrote:

Right. Finally got this up on here, so...

http://satellablog.blogspot.com/2008/05/confusion-live-broadcast-bs-f-zero-2.html

These are video clips of "BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2". 1st episode.

Do we have a ROM that matches the track layout and order scene in that video?

http://satellablog.blogspot.com/2008/05/wheres-rest-of-this-niconicodouga-bs.html

I think this is what "BS Super Mario Collection 1" will look like if it's ever found.

http://satellablog.blogspot.com/2008/04/examples-of-download-game-satella.html

And these three might be the "BS Dezaemon" games.

Links to the original NicoNicoDouga videos are in those blog entries, but that site has a registration process and language barrier, so I put them up on this blog in the hope that they'd be easier to access there, and thus can spread around and help gather some good Satellaview information.

I hope these are helpful for you.

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Re: SFC/SNES Undumped lists [20080503] \ FitzRoy on Yesterday, 21:43 wrote:

I just bought two Fighter's History (USA) carts off ebay in the hopes of getting a 1.0 cart. I've also begun inquiring sellers with Super Bases Loaded 3 to find a 1.1 cart.

Star Fox 1.1 seems to be a bit ambiguous? Has anyone dumped the 1.0 and 1.2 carts and seen the markings for those? I don't want to go on a wild goose chase here. This is a far more popular game and it seems odd that 1.1 wouldn't have gotten dumped if it truly exists.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0274481955

What are those two games?


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Dokidoki Penguin was recently dumped (see http://eludevisibility.org/news/53/). Hard to say if it's the same version/edition or another one.

"Event Hen" could be anything. Several games had event versions on Satellaview.


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If my crappy machine translations are correct, there's probably only one "version" per se of DokiDoki Penguin Family (Peculiarly, Matthew Callis' ROM dump was from a cartridge where for some particular reason the game was downloaded twice, which led to some confusion). This cart might be good to see if it has a different broadcast date from one of the other ones, if we start to help archiving the "Schedule" the Satellaview ran. I question if no-intro would be interested in such an endeavor though.

"Event Hen" is a rather vague description... It could possibly be one of many games, undumped or dumped. The only way to really understand that is to try playing or dumping the ROM of the game. A typical case of a Satellaview cart with high risk/reward factor.

BTW, on the note of recently dumped games, BS Fuurai no Shiren Dai-2-wa was also recently released, if anyone cares to cross that out from the list.


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Any japanese unreleased revision rom dump dat here.
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/ototo2006/c/f8745 ... 2ded2ee241


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A cartridge database? Interesting.

I've been looking at Japanese Satellaview fansites to double-check on the accuracy of the undumped BS-X list. The results I'm getting give me the impression that there's even -more- undumped than listed on there, though. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


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Mh, my eyes might be playing tricks with me but this serial certainly looks long enough to be an ITA/SITA one. If it is, this game is undumped:

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And another possible undumped, although unlikely:

The german dump of player manager says "K.H. Rummenigge's Player Manager", doesn't it? Well, as expected there's a NOE-SFRG cart labeled like that. But, there's also a NOE_SFRG cart labeled Kevin Keegan's Player Manager. I looked at my cart and its the Kevin Keegan labeled one, so the current dump matches that cart. The other one likely is the same, but it should still be redumped.

Also, there's a french release of the game. I haven't found a picture where one can read the serial though so I don't know if it has been localized or not...


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Is everyone on his holiday?

Well, here's a cart that's definitely undumped (Super Scope NTSC Test Cart):

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126697


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The following Nintendo Gateway System games are undumped. I'm afraid that it might be impossible to find these games.

- Dr. Mario
- Hangman
- Noughts & Crosses
- Postcard Puzzle

Nintendo had a website with information on the Nintendo Gateway System (essentially a media system used in hotels and airplanes). Most of it is preserved on archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/200512150120 ... index.html

The only one of those four games that have been found is Noughts & Crosses. I have a page on Snes Central (though very outdated):

http://www.snescentral.com/article.php?id=0788

Unfortunately, it is an SA-1 game (making it difficult to dump without removing the ROM chip), and it is owned by DreamTR, who is unlikely to ever want to part with it.


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A bunch of SFC prototypes:

http://openuser.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/user/spike_b

Unfortunately, things didn't go well for me on the job front, so I won't be able to bid on them. Pretty neat, though.


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